Is it possible to install on Keenetic router?

[vlad-6502]

Hi all!
Is it possible to install Ytuner on Keenetic router?
If yes what is the procedure?

Thank you in advance !

[coffeegreg]

Hi @vlad-6502
First of all you have to tell us more about your router. What type is it?
Secondly... are you able to log into your router via ssh or telnet? If not, I don't know the possibility of running YTuner on your router, if so, let's move on...
Tell us more about your Keenetic router linux platform with uname -a command.
As I mentioned, I don't know what model your Keenetic router is. Let's take the first one that comes along .... https://keenetic.com/en/products ... Keenetic Titan

and

Well ... MIPS ... as far as I remember FPC can cross build binaries for MIPS platform but I didn't try this so far ... 🤔
In the meantime, you can check out this issue #37 long thread.

[vlad-6502]

Hi @coffeegreg !
I have spent some time tossing through Issue #37 and tried to connect my Keenetic via sshl/telnet. So far, my findings are:

• My level of knowledge of unix-based OS is very limited ;(
• I have managed to connect to my Keenetic Hopper via telnet, but neither uname -a, no any other basic unux command are executable… Seems it’s just proprietary Command-line interface (CLI) only

• Someone managed to install YCast on Keenetic using opkg
• I found hardware specification for my router:
  Model: Keenetic Hopper KN-3810
  CPU: EcoNet EN7528DU/DA MIPS @ 900 MHz, 2 cores / 4 threads
  RAM: 256 MB DDR3
  Flash-ROM: 128 МB (Dual Boot, SPI-NAND): Kioxia TC58CVG0S3HRAIJ, Winbond 5N01GVZEIG, Nuvoton XT26G01CWSIGA

To summarize, seems that if compiling for MIPS is possible, YTuner could be installed on KN-3810 via opkg (whilst the procedure is not clear for me yet)

So, should I try to run Hello World app on my router ?
If yes, what should be the steps, I have no experience with opkg.

[coffeegreg]

@vlad-6502
The console you showed is unfortunately not a Linux/Unix console. If you managed to run OpenWRT on your router, it would be a matter of compiling YTuner for the MIPS architecture.

So, should I try to run #37 (comment) on my router ?

No ... Those "Hello World" apps were built for the ARM processor architecture... not MIPS. I just tried to build the same one for MIPS but I got some error and I don't have time to analyze the problem in detail right now.
If you manage to run OpenWRt on your router, let me know and I will then try to build some "Hello world" application for the MIPS architecture as a start, but I do not promise that I will definitely succeed.

[Ice64zzz]

I will add some information.. I have a similar router (kinetic giga), it has the -linux-mipsel architecture. You can get access to linux console by installing entware opkg. For example I installed /~https://github.com/philippe44/AirConnect (a -linux-mipsel program that allows you to convert airplay to dlna on-the-fly. It works well. After that I tried to compile the YTuner too by using different methods (codetyphone, lazarus, etc.) for mipsel linux, but I received many errors in different operating systems. If you can make the YTuner binary for linux mipsel, it will be very useful for keenetic owners.

Description at (https://help.keenetic.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021888880-Installing-OPKG-Entware-in-the-router-s-internal-memory)

[vlad-6502]

Since yTuner is written in Pascal, native compilation for musl is not possible. Thus, I did not researched this further. So just for clarification: I do not have yTuner running on OpenWrt.

@rkerschn, аnyway, thank you for support!
Seems that the things are far more complicated as expected ;(

For the moment I'm going to try another option - install on Raspberry PI, on which Home Assitant is currently running

[rkerschn]

@rkerschn, аnyway, thank you for support!

You're welcome!

The thing is, we do not even know if Keenetic router is glibc or musl libc based.
And I have to admit, I do not know how entware really works.

You could try to install libc6-compat or gcompat. On OpenWrt this was not required, though.

[coffeegreg]

Since the router Web Interface is already listeing to Port 80, you cannot have a second process listening to port 80. So one would need a reverse proxy that redirects all packets going to vtuner.com to a different port.

True.

Since yTuner is written in Pascal, native compilation for musl is not possible.

I'm not sure about this...

I didn't spend enough time to do all the tests. I definitely don't have cross tools but that doesn't mean they can't be generated. I just don't know how to do it.
Alpine Linux is definitely musl and running YTuner on it is no big deal. Everything described here /~https://github.com/coffeegreg/YTuner/blob/master/doc/DOCKER.md with reference to the docker container.

[rkerschn]

@coffeegreg
Quite interesting, honestly. I had rolled various forums, at the time of #37, and other sources and the unanimous opinion was that fpc cannot compile musl.
I guess Alpine is a different story. OpenWrt it is a bit different, It's about updates, and with every update I would need to flash a new image, loosing all manually installed software packages. There are certain ways around it, but honestly it's a hassle.

It would be awesome to have yTuner written in C or C++. I guess that would make things much easier in terms of creating packages for certain packet management systems like apk or opkg.

[Ice64zzz]

I haven't thought about port 80 before read #49 (reply in thread). We could probably change the router's web interface port, but it's not worth the effort. Now i realize that a running the YTuner on a router is probably not a brilliant idea.